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The Hot 8: Part 1

May 19, 2006 by nonotes

If you happen to have read the essay that this site spun off from, you may recall that my interest in “St. James Infirmary” can be traced to the time I heard The Hot 8 perform it, in 1998. We saw the group by chance, because we were visiting New Orleans and had ended up at a bar called Donna’s; The Hot 8 was playing that night.

Later, when we moved to New Orleans, I kept track of The Hot 8, which was among the half-dozen or so top brass bands in the city. These are bands that play “on the street,” meaning in parades, as well as in clubs. I think it’s safe to say that then and now, the biggest group in this uniquely New Orleans category, is the Rebirth Brass Band. The Dirty Dozen, a more famous band that came out of this scene, no longer counts, because they stopped playing in the streets long ago. Anyway, while my interest in The Hot 8 was personal, they are also an interesting example of a genre that dates back probably 100 years or more, and yet has remained quite current in New Orleans. The Hot 8 even appeared in a Master P video.

At some point our friend Cynthia mentioned that she’d heard about a Hot 8 documentary. It took me a long time to actually get around to looking into this, but recently I did, and it’s true. The 30-minute film was released in 2003, by Noisemaker Films, and you can see a trailer for it here. (Click through to “Films,” and it’s the top choice; it’s called The Hot 8.) “The film explores the future of the jazz community in pre-Katrina Nola and reveals the deep rift between generations young and old,” the site says.

The film isn’t commercially available, but, figuring I had nothing to lose, I emailed Noisemaker Films and asked if there was any way to buy a DVD. Promptly, I got a very nice response from the producer, Luis Macias, who said he’d send me one, and all I had to do for payment was tell him what I thought.

New Orleans always photographs well, in my opinion. But The Hot 8 looks particularly fabulous. It’s shot in black and white, and the cinematography is gorgeous. It’s clearly a very heartfelt project, and among other things there’s some great performance footage of the band. For personal reasons again, I was pleased that much of that material was actually filmed at Donna’s. I was even more pleased to hear a bit of “St. James Infirmary” pop up in the film, even though it was sort of in the background toward the end, not a featured performance. The Hot 8 has been screened at some 24 film festivals, and has won six best-short-documentary awards — and a nice writeup in the Times-Picayune — along the way.

The film is narrated by the director, who I gather is from Chicago. I know from personal experience that New Orleanians are rarely impressed with the observations of outsiders, and the film doesn’t do itself any favors by having this opening line, spoken by the director: “I never liked New Orleans.” What he seems to mean is that he doesn’t like Bourbon Street and the tourist-heavy French Quarter, and that’s why the film’s narration champions Treme. That’s all good, but of course, Donna’s isn’t in Treme; it’s in the Quarter. And it’s often full of tourists.

As the quote from the site indicates, the film is built around the idea of tension between generations of musicians. Of course my personal view on this matter is that it’s much more interesting that young musicians like those in The Hot 8 are involved so deeply in traditional music at all; there’s just no other place where that happens like it happens in New Orleans. It’s interesting to hear what the old-school trad guys think about these young musicians, but it would also be interesting, to me at least, to hear what Master P thinks. But as I say, it’s a very heartfelt film, they did an admirable job — I can’t fault somebody for not delivering on my personal vision of why the Hot 8 is interesting.

I’ll have more to say about The Hot 8 in a follow-up post, maybe next week. For now, I thank Mr. Macias for sharing the film, congratulate him and his colleagues on what they’ve done, and wish them luck in the various projects that Noisemaker has in the works (a couple of which involve New Orleans, and are worth checking out on their site.)

I also suggest that you might want to visit The Hot 8 site. The band is still going, and released its first CD in 2005. On the site there are several MP3 downloads available — I recommend “Rock With The Hot 8,” and “Skeet Skeet” as nice representations of how the group has married traditional sensibilities to the more modern, funky brass approach that animates the second-lines and the clubs today.

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  • "St. James Infirmary"

    [Or: The Point of this Site]

    A couple of years ago I did some research into the song "St. James Infirmary," wrote up what I found, emailed that essay to friends and posted it on my web site (as part of a series of "Letters From New Orleans," as I was living in that city at the time). Based on the feedback, I wrote a second version of the essay, and asked for more feedback. Based on that, I wrote a third version.

    And now, this site: A place to collect some of the links, leads, thoughts, and suggestions relating to the song that readers (from Finland, The Netherlands, Australia, Spain, England, Sweden, Canada, and all over the U.S.) have sent me. This may lead to a fourth and significantly expanded version of the essay, some day. Also on this site: Plenty of tangents.

    Never heard "St. James Infirmary"? Start here.

  • The Essay

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    The most recent version of my "St. James Infirmary" essay is now a few years old. But it's still a fairly decent overview of what I know about the song, and why I'm interested in it. You can read it either in the book Letters from New Orleans (see below), or in the archives of The Gambit, the New Orleans weekly that published the piece as a book excerpt when LfNO came out.

  • Podcast!

    In November 2007 I was invited to do an all-"SJI" episode of the outstanding Podcast The Sounds In My Head. My episode is here. Post about it (with playlist, so, you know, spoiler alert) is here.
  • Categories

    • "St. James Infirmary"
    • 1. St. James (+ Tangents)
    • Announcements
    • Antecedents and Variations
    • Friends
    • In performance
    • Intellectual property
    • Irving Mills/Joe Primrose
    • Letters From New Orleans book
    • Lyric deconstruction
    • MLK BLVD
    • Movies & Television
    • Musical context
    • MySpace/YouTube/Etc.
    • New Orleans
    • Non-musical context
    • One song / one album
    • Other Music +
    • Public Housing
    • Q&As
    • Questions (and sometimes answers)
    • St. James +
    • St. James Infirmary (the building)
    • Thanks
    • The Hot 8
    • The Rolling Jelly Series
    • The Thing Itself
    • Uncategorized
    • Versions
  • The Book

    This site is a partial spinoff of the book Letters from New Orleans, published by the unstoppable Garrett County Press. My interest in "St. James Infirmary" is the subject of one essay in the book. All author proceeds from the book still go to post-Katrina relief efforts, so I think it's okay for me to say: You ought to buy it.

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  • 1. St. James (+ Tangents)

    • * Betty Boop cartoon with Cab Calloway’s version of “St. James Infirmary.”
    • * Dutch radio broadcast featuring many versions of “S.J.I.” Part One.
    • * Dutch radio broadcast featuring many versions of “S.J.I.” Part Two
    • * Irving Mills overview via The Red Hot Jazz Archive
    • * Metafilter August 2005 “Streets of Laredo” discussion
    • * Metafilter June 2004 “St. James” discussion
    • * Mudcat discussion
    • * Tablature
    • * The Hot 8: The band I heard play “St. James Infirmary” in the late 1990s
    • * The Unfortunate Rake collection on Smithsonian Folkways Recordings
    • * The Unfortunate Rake lyrics
    • * Transcript of S.N.L. with Lilly Tomlin singing “St. James Infirmary.”
    • * Unfortunate Lass lyrics
    • * Wikipedia entry
  • 2. Other Music (+ So On)

    • Alan Lomax Stuff
    • Disquiet
    • Downtown Soulville with Mr. Fine Wine
    • Folkways Smithsonian
    • Gary Giddins Essay on Louis Armstrong
    • Give the Drummer Some
    • Home of the Groove
    • Music of New Orleans: Music of the Streets; Music of Mardi Gras
    • Myshkin’s Ruby Warblers
    • Negrospirituals.com
    • The American Folklife Center
    • The Florida Folklife Collection
    • The Red Hot Jazz Archive
    • The Sounds In My Head
    • WBGO
    • WWOZ
  • 3. New Orleans (+ Like That)

    • “Class-ifying the Hurricane,” by Adolph Reed Jr.
    • * Why America Needs a City Right Where New Orleans Is
    • Basin Street Records
    • Culture Gulf
    • Katrina & post-Katrina shots by our friend, photographer Charles Franklin
    • Louisiana Music Factory
    • Washing Away
  • Versions

    I either own or am familiar with a bunch of versions of S.J.I. and close variations by a variety of artists. Here's a list, in progress. For now I'm concentrating on SJI, rather than its folk antecedents or any of the "Streets of Laredo" thread. Title is "St. James Infirmary" or "St. James Infirmary Blues" unless otherwise noted:


    A - B -C

  • Henry "Red" Allen
  • The Animals
  • Louis Armstrong (more than once, but the 1928 version is the one I'm partial to)

  • James "Iron Head" Baker ("St. James Hospital;" a Lomax field recording)
  • Danny Barker
  • Count Basie
  • Bethany & Rufus
  • Bobby "Blue" Bland
  • James Booker
  • Brothers Four
  • Peter Brötzmann/Die Like a Dog

  • Cab Calloway
  • Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan
  • Big Al Carson / The Magnificent Sevenths
  • Eric Clapton and Dr. John (live)
  • Joe Cocker
  • Ray Condo
  • Harry Connick Jr.
  • J. Lawrence Cook
  • Scatman Crothers

  • D-E-F

  • Joe Dassin
  • Herman Davis ("Barroom Blues")
  • The Doors

  • Snooks Eaglin
  • Ramblin' Jack Elliot

  • Bob French's Original Tuxedo Jazz Band & Friends

  • G-H-I

  • Michael Galasso ("Blue"), an amazing piece.
  • Red Garland (a nice one)
  • Errol Garner
  • Benny Goodman
  • Arlo Guthrie

  • Hall Johnson Negro Choir
  • Harlem Hot Chocolates
  • Alex Hill and His Orchestra
  • Earl Hines
  • Mattie Hite ("St. Joe's Infirmary")
  • Toshiyuki Honda
  • The Hokum Boys ("Gamber's Blues," two excellent takes)

  • J-K-L

  • Janis Joplin (mentioned to me by multiple people; I don't have it)
  • Dr. John ("Touro Infirmary")
  • Tom Jones

  • Kansas City Frank and his Footwarmers
  • Johnny Kendall & The Heralds (I'm told this was huge in The Netherlands in the 1960s)
  • Stan Kenton (twice, I think, one of those as "Gambler's Blues")
  • Chris Thomas King
  • Spider John Koerner

  • George E. Lee and his Novelty Singing Orchestra
  • Limelighters

  • M-N-O

  • Colette Magny
  • The Main Squeeze Orchestra
  • Roger McGuinn
  • Blind Willie McTell (as "Dyin' Crapshooters Blues," in 1942 and 1956; I prefer the latter)
  • Irving Mills and His Hotsy Tosty Gang
  • Van Morrison

  • (Mystic Knights of) Oingo Boingo
  • King Oliver
  • Kid Ory

  • P-Q-R

  • Moses "Clear Rock" Platt. ("St. James Hospital," a Lomax field recording)
  • Preservation Hall Jazz Band
  • Hot Lips Paige
  • Perez Prado

  • Lou Rawls
  • Della Reese
  • Marc Ribot (Solo guitar instrumental; one of my favorites)
  • Jimmie Rodgers ("Those Gamblers' Blues," one of my very favorites; "Gambling Barrooom Blues" is similar)
  • Kermit Ruffins

  • S-T-U

  • Artie Shaw
  • Archie Shepp
  • Ezra Sims ("Sextet")
  • Sin the Tik
  • Jimmy Smith
  • Snakefarm
  • James Solbere
  • Pete Special/Old Town School of Folk
  • Standells
  • Jack Teagarden (at least two versions)
  • Alphonso Trent and his Orchestra
  • Triffids

  • V-W-X-Y-Z

    Dave Van Ronk

  • Dr. Richard Watson
  • Josh White
  • The White Stripes
  • Fess Williams and His Royal Flush Orchestra ("Gambler's Blues")
  • Jackie Wilson
  • Marva Wright

  • The Ventures

  • Frank Zappa ("Ain't Necessarily the St. James Infirmary Blues," a pretty cool take)

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